Monday, June 20, 2011

4 school of thoughts/ Ahle-Hadith

4 school of thoughts:



Aim of this article to explain things very simply so that people can understand what basically is school of thoughts. Some people/ some sects like Ahle hadith , jamat e muslamen and some other sects have did so much propaganda against 4 school of thoughts and people have started thinking that these school of thoughts are useless thing and are the root of all evils.



What basically 4 school of though is :


These Scholars basically compiled Islamic laws based on Ahadith, Sunnah and Quran.They did great research in reading ,understanding and analyzing Quran o hadith Sunnah. So that they can compile rulings for everyone.


Like Fard Sunnah Nafl Wajib , Mubah , Haram , Makrooh . Ahadith don’t give list of these things. Based on deep understanding of ahadith and Sunnah Scholars extract rulings and such opinion/extraction of scholars is called School of thought/Opinion of Scholars and obviously all people don't think / understand/ analyze in same way so difference is natural . Even sahabas have difference of opinion.

Some Examples which will help in understanding


Take an example of Aesaal e Sawab :

Imam Shafai opinion of this matter is . There is no aesaal e sawab
And he quotes this ayat

Quran 6 164

And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another.

"When a man dies, accrual of merit in his favor from good deeds ceases except from three actions:
1. A charity which continues after his death;
2. Knowledge left behind from which men continue to benefit, and
3. Righteous offspring who pray for him."


(Muslim 4005)

He said Quran is clear about it you cannot give on behalf of others
(this was Imam shafai understanding of Quran o Sunnah)

Imam Ahmed says

No you can do aesaal e sawab He quotes


A man came to the Prophet(Peace Be Upon Him) and said, "O Allah's Apostle! My mother died and she ought to have fasted one month (for her missed Ramadan). Shall I fast on her behalf?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative and said, "Allah's debts have more right to be paid." In another narration a woman is reported to have said, "My sister died

Muslim
and many other such ahadiths
(this is Hanbal's opinion , Opnions doesnt mean he is ordering something from his own , or he sees something in dream and he start preaching it)
Both opinions are present in Sahih ahadith.

If I will say am more convinced with Imam Shafai's opinion. Then here I can soundly say that on this issue I follow Imam shafai school of thought/his opinion/his logic.

(but if two arrogants will meet they will say that i follow this because i read this in quran you all others are Quran rejector and Imam Ahmad follower will say the same thing to other that you are hadith rejector) (it will result in fitna) though both have proofs but one group show only one side of picture to his sect people like other group don't have any authentic proof.


See another example


Muslim (2024, 2025) narrated from Anas and Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade drinking whilst standing.

Al-Bukhaari (5615) narrated from ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he drank whilst standing then he said: Some people say it is makrooh for one of you to drink whilst standing, but I saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) doing what you have seen me do.


Now see these ahadith. Scholars also try to understand this Issue.
One said follow order of nabi(s.a.w) not what nabi(s.a.w) did . He said drinking while standing is Haram.
Other said but we have seen that Nabi(s.a.w) too drank while standing So it is Makrook(disliked) but not haram.These were their opinions and such difference is natural All people cannot think in same way and honestly they tried to find the Hukam Allah will give them Ajar and Inshallah both opinions won't b rejected.


These were just example to explain the reality of opinion of Imams which is basically analysis of imams of Quran o Sunnah

Following Imams – and Ahle Hadith propoganda


The person who started this Firka seems very very literal who doesn’t try to understand things deeply. he didn’t try to understand Fiqh.
He himself assumes that whole shirk , bidats are because of following Imams and that assumption was totally bogus.

Now when Ahle hadith talks about following Imams they talk about it in a way like following imam is something like LAAT MANAT .. or
like imams followers suggest that
Indeed excellent is the example of Abu hanifa to follow.
and like Imams were teaching their own religion at their own


Quran 33 21

There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.


Indeed which is not the case as by reading above example you might have understand that school of though don’t have to do anything with ASWA E HASANA/ orders of Imams .It is basically their opinions/ understanding of Quran o hadith
No one is interested to know how Imams used to eat sit stand etc

Basically this firka was started as a revived movement against bidat instead of targeting the real issue they introduce new debate of rejecting and accepting school of thoughts.They indulge themselves in wrong issue.

If you see logically in reality no one can directly be ahle hadith
Like if I will ask you about finding ruling on drinking water or if I will ask u 4,5 more such issue.. if you will directly start looking into Quran o hadith . it will take ur full life to find the answer of these things extracting hukam is not easy.Hadayat is open but extracting hukan is difficult thing.
What actually happened is that people direcly go to Fiqh book( Ibn taymiya usually) and will find Hukam from that book and will pick their proof(hadith) and will start jumping that i am ahle hadith and will start rejecting the person from whose book they got the proofs who compiled proofs for them.

In short means Ahle hadith is nothing but illogical kind of school of thought. its logical name can be Ibn Taymiya school of thought and he was great scholar too and his opinions carry weight.

Real Issues

E.g in issue of esaal e sawab or drinking water some people will start never ending debate that this hadith other will start saying that I have read quran found that ayat your aqeeda is against quran u r quran rejector and kaffir .
This will lead to nothingelse but fitna .
But if we will say that on that issue I prefer Imam Shafai’s opnion and logic other will say that I will go for hanbal’s logic. Issue will be resolved and wouldn’t lead to harted and never ending time wasting debate because both opinions have place and proofs.


Most Important Thing/ Bidat / Shirkia Aqaids


Firka Ahle Hadith was not started for any wrong purpose but they did mistake in understanding real issue, they were unable to addres the real reason of bidats and shirkiya Aqaidas which don’t have to do anything with Schools of thoughts.

Now if some is dancing on Mazaars and claiming that he is following Abu Hanifa or Shafai school of thought. Instead of start doing propaganda against school of thoughts ask him where Abu Hanifa told you to dance on mazars?
Following Ahmad Raza’s and Tahir Qadri shirkia aqaid don’t have to do anything with Abu Hanifa.
Abu Hanifa is not mujrim he was great scholar and he tried to make things easier of us rather Ahmed Raza and tahir qadri is mujrim. We have to target the real mujrims rather imams.When people start targeting imams/ school of thoughts these real mujrims started hiding themselves behind the veils of imams.


What most happen is all bidaties usually use fake ahadiths/fake interpretations but that doesn’t mean your will start saying that don’t follow ahadith.
Ask them to prove that Abu Hanifa interpret that hadith this or not? Or Ahmed Raza interpret like this?
Ask them is this the opinion of ashraf ali thanvi or of any imam?

Another problem is that people start giving superiority of one school of though on other like saying that Abu Hanifa is Imam Azam other imams were nothing . This is totally ridiculous.

And at last sticking to opinion of any single Imam on every matter is not necessary neither needed nor compulsory.



This thread is for Aqiloon and for those who don't have asbiyat of any Sect
and the most dangerous things is any kind of Asbiyat